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De-plaiting nodes

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:18 pm
by Julian Griffin
Hi,

   I have found a way to reduce the work needed after a Transform like 'Bold' has been performed on a set of glyphs.

   This can leave the nodes quite plaited together, which needs to be sorted out. The following steps can greatly simplify this onerous job.

From the Font Overview window:
   :arrow:   Open a Glyph Window,
   :arrow:   Open the Validation Toolbar (F7),
   :arrow:   Enable 'Real-Time' validation,
   :arrow:   Ensure Contour mode is active (P),
   Now ...
   :arrow:   Step through the glyphs (Alt-→) until the Validation Toolbar lists some Problems,
   Then ...
      :arrow:   Select all contours (Ctrl-A),
      :arrow:   From the Edit menu select > Join contours > Union,
      :arrow:   Use the Validation Toolbar, to correct such things as redundant Points. Continue to correct Problems, until all that can be done is done.
      This reduces the work by 90%. Leaving only a few nodes that need further investigation.
Continue to look through the glyphs (Alt-→) for problem, until all Problems are resolved.

If anyone knows of more ways to reduce this time-eating task, I would love to learn it.

Regards Julian.

Re: De-plaiting nodes

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:58 pm
by Bhikkhu Pesala
This tip can definitely help in some cases, but it may also do more harm than good. Unfortunately, I don't know of any reliable way to fix intersecting co-ordinates other than zooming in close and moving or deleting nodes to prevent the cross-overs. That can be very time-consuming.

Below are some fairly typical problems that arose after using a bold transform on the Uppercase B in one of my fonts.

First, after the bold transformation, showing a close-up of the intersecting co-ordinates.
Intersecting Coordinates.png
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Second, showing the result of Get Union of Contours
Get Union.png
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If you use this method, it might still save you time, provided you clean up afterwards, but it can also change the shape of the curves in a way that moving a few nodes would not as in this example.

Re: De-plaiting nodes

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:44 am
by Julian Griffin
Hello Pesala,

   Yes I agree this must be done with care, and can be very time consuming work.

   I first leant to use FC on a demo version 5.6. I had hoped that is would have been fixed or at least improved in version 9. But it seems not. Let's hope others reply to this thread, to prompt High-Logic to find a better solution to the plaiting clean-up work that can be left by some Transform commands.

Regards Julian.