[CLOSED] Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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[CLOSED] Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Ligatures not working properly and also not working after exporting font.
sample files has been attached FYI.

الحمد ۝۱

I am using FontCreator 15.0.0.2974 version
File works in FontCreator 13.0.0.2683 version



FontCreator 15.0.0.2974 version.PNG
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FontCreator 13.0.0.2683 version.PNG
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Unfortunately the way our shaping engine handles bidi direction is far from complete, so this will remain an issue. Better test your font in a web browser.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Thanks but when I export font from this latest software its also destroyed my font and does not working in any software.
And how long will you be out of this problem?
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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faisal.quadirey wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:09 am Thanks but when I export font from this latest software its also destroyed my font and does not working in any software.
What problems and in what software? Here it all seems to work just fine in a web browser.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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sorry sir for
I export font from this latest software its also destroyed my font and does not working in any software
now i am sending you both projects created in FC-13 & FC-15 with snap shots FYI.

and also i asked that: How long will you be out of this?
Unfortunately the way our shaping engine handles bidi direction is far from complete, so this will remain an issue.
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I tested both in a web browser and it all works just fine.

Please send me a clear instruction on how to reproduce the problem. If you tell me in what Word processor you made those screenshots and provide the text, then I might be able to investigate further.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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I am using Adobe Indesign (2023 & 2024), facing problem in both versions I have.
Please find the text file for your reference.

When I produce font file from FC15. Ligatures like ( ۝۲ۙ) collides with text.

If I export .ttf file from FC13. It works perfectly means ligatures never collides with text.

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بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ۝۱
اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ رَبِّ الْعٰلَمِیْنَ ۝۲ۙ
الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ ۝۳ۙ
مٰلِكِ یَوْمِ الدِّیْنِ ۝۴ؕ
اِیَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وَ اِیَّاكَ نَسْتَعِیْنُ ۝۵ؕ
اِهْدِنَا الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِیْمَ ۝۶ۙ
صِرَاطَ الَّذِیْنَ اَنْعَمْتَ عَلَیْهِمْ ࣢ۙ غَیْرِ الْمَغْضُوْبِ عَلَیْهِمْ وَ لَا الضَّآلِّیْنَ ۝۷ࣖ
بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ
الٓمّٓ ۝۱ۚ
ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ لَا رَیْبَ ◌ۚۖۛ فِیْهِ ◌ۚۛ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِیْنَ ۝۲ۙ
الَّذِیْنَ یُؤْمِنُوْنَ بِالْغَیْبِ وَ یُقِیْمُوْنَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَ مِمَّا رَزَقْنٰهُمْ یُنْفِقُوْنَ ۝۳ۙ
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Over the years Adobe has fixed numerous issues related to font support in their software, but there are still many issues. To make it more complex, they use three different font shaping engines (a basic one, a composer one for complex scripts, and optionally/ experimental Harfbuzz), so what works in one, might fail in another.

As you know, FontCreator comes with cutting edge technology to optimize the internal OpenType feature data, and Adobe software sometimes chokes on such fonts. So as a workaround, you could disable this optimize feature in the Options dialog -> Font tab -> Optimize storage of OpenType layout features. If this solves the issue, then please contact Adobe and ask them to fix their software. You can do this here:
https://indesign.uservoice.com/

Let us know if this helps.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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issue persists.
I had checked preview in browser.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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If it is still an issue in web browsers, then it most likely is an issue within FontCreator.

We will look into this and get back to you as soon as we located the cause of the problem.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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The previous version did a better job at guessing the OT Class. For example arabicendofayah_extendedarabicindictwo_smallhighlamalefcomb-arab.ccmp used to be set to Base, while version 15 set it to a Mark. That caused the problem, and this release has a fix for it.

https://www.high-logic.com/tmp/fontcrea ... 83-x64.exe

Please let us know your results.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Thanks sir works perfectly.
but half of the issue still exist

example with arabicendofayah has been solved as you said.

but with dottedcircle still collides
for example: dottedcircle_smallhighjeemcomb-arab.ccmp
text for your reference قَبْلِكَ ◌ۚ وَ
(◌ۚ)
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Some more changes related to OT Class:

https://www.high-logic.com/tmp/fontcrea ... 84-x64.exe

Please let us know your results.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Thanks sir.
Issue resolved in Browsers as well as in Adobe InDesign
but not resolved for notepad, I am using windows 10.
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Re: Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

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Sir please solved this issue completely as you solved partially in the update Font Creator 15.0.0.2984. Thanks

text for preview
ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ لَا رَیْبَ ◌ۚۖۛ فِیْهِ ◌ۚۛ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِیْنَ ۝۲ۙ
faisal.quadirey wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:47 am Ligatures not working properly and also not working after exporting font.
sample files has been attached FYI.

الحمد ۝۱

I am using FontCreator 15.0.0.2974 version
File works in FontCreator 13.0.0.2683 version




FontCreator 15.0.0.2974 version.PNG
FontCreator 13.0.0.2683 version.PNG
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