# Can't Order shapes while creating glyph

**URL:** <https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663>\
**Category:** FontCreator - Support\
**Created:** [September 25, 2026, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663 "2026-09-25T20:45:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![fincab](https://forum.high-logic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@fincab](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/fincab)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663/1 "2026-09-25T20:45:36Z")

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When I create a shape (circle/square), I can’t send it behind another shape. I tried the “send to back” icon, but nothing happens. Any ideas? thx

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**Author:** ![Bhikkhu\_Pesala](https://forum.high-logic.com/user_avatar/forum.high-logic.com/bhikkhu_pesala/32/9411_2.png) [@Bhikkhu\_Pesala](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/Bhikkhu_Pesala)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663/2 "2026-09-25T23:55:32Z")

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Check the contour direction of each shape. To get a white circle on a black square, they must rotate in opposite directions.

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**Author:** ![fincab](https://forum.high-logic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@fincab](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/fincab)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2026, 12:13am UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663/3 "2026-09-27T00:13:55Z")

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that’s not my issue. If I place one circle on another, I can only select the last (the top) one. I can’t get to the bottom one without moving the first one out of the way

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**Author:** ![ErwinDenissen](https://forum.high-logic.com/user_avatar/forum.high-logic.com/erwindenissen/32/9430_2.png) [@ErwinDenissen](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/ErwinDenissen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2026, 1:11pm UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663/4 "2026-09-27T13:11:36Z")

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You should be able to select the inner contour, unless you already have selected the outer one.

Make sure you are running the most recent version, to be sure you are not facing an issue that has already been resolved.

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**Author:** ![fincab](https://forum.high-logic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@fincab](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/fincab)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/cant-order-shapes-while-creating-glyph/13663/5 "2026-09-27T20:49:07Z")

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Thanks. You helped me figure it out. After I selected “send to back,” I was clicking directly on the shape. Apparently, I have to deselect it first by clicking on any white space. Then I can select the object I want.
