Edited font is no longer available

Hi, everyone-- I just registered to be able to post my question, though I’ve been reading the FAQs and posts possibly related to the question, and then other posts because they are interesting. My question (please bear with me; I’ve written clearly, though not concisely):

[I am using WinXPpro, and my computer is robust and “healthy.”] To learn how to use FC, I added some characters to a freeware font, “JustAnotherFont.” While creating and editing the glyphs, I would close FC, open Typograf (font mgr), load the edited font, use it in a word processor, decide what still needed to be fixed, exit the word processor, open Typograf, unload the font, open FC, adjust the glyph(s), close FC (sometimes I left it open), load the font with Typograf, etc. again and again.

Then the font was no longer available to my word processor. I opened Typograf, and where the sample characters of the font should have been, there was nothing. I thought I had lost it. But when I opened FC again, there was the font with the added glyphs. I Saved As just in case, calling the font “NotJustAnother.” Closed FC, opened Typograf, and looked; although both the originally edited and the newly copied fonts were listed, there were no sample characters. Double-clicked to see font properties; nothing to see. Here are screenshots of what I describe in this paragraph:

Then I opened Windows Explorer to see if the fonts were in c:\windows\fonts; yes, fortunately! I double-clicked on the fontname and saw the property sheet under the other screenshots. The fonts exist, and they even have the characters I added (orange).

So how do I get the font to be available to my text applications? What do you think I did to make the font’s characters “invisible”?

Update: I decided to use character map to have a third application’s input, and just now when I opened Typograf to load the font so that charmap could find it, lo! there it was, with the characters visible, and down in the Ns was the renamed font. So now my questions are: (1) What do you think happened to make the fonts “invisible” and then accessible again?

and (2), the renamed copy of the font exists, but while its fontname is “NotJustAnother,” its filename is “justanotherfont.ttf”; can you please point me to what I should read to learn about renaming fonts?

Thanks for your patience!
D_Spider

You can test a font in the Test Window (F5) without installing it or loading a Word-processor. Font Creator installs it as temporary font (FCPxxxx) so it is available to other applications while the font test window is open. I sometimes test fonts in Wordpad.

Perhaps all that loading and unloading of fonts and programs upset your Windows system resources, though Windows XP is said to be better than ME in that respect. A reboot will usually fix such problems.

I just tried the Font|Test, and it is really neat! Would have saved me a lot of finger-work had I known. I must have looked right past the temporary font’s name in the word-processor drop-down because I was not expecting it. Since the “test” feature used only the short text sample within FC, and since my new characters were not in that sample, I did the tedious things I did. Thank you for telling me about this testing method!

I don’t think the problem I encountered–the disappearing text–was from low sys resources, or at least not wholly. I thought that was the problem, and I rebooted, and afterwards the missing characters were still missing. I may have rebooted (a 2nd time) before going online. If that’s the case, it’s strange that Windows required a 2nd refreshing of system resources. But “strange” isn’t “unusual” or even “unlikely.” De [what’s “computers”?] semper dubitandum est.

Hello D_Spider

You could put your special characters into the Test Font. A file in your Font Creator directory, fcppreview.txt, holds the letters which will be displayed. You can add any letter you wish using the unicode hex value.

I use one which contains 0-9, `-+, a-z, A-Z and a whole bunch of extra letters. You can copy and paste from other fonts or use the format of \uuuu for each letter. The extra stuff:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, Consetetur sadipscing elitr, Sed diam
nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat,
sed diam voluptua.

\20AC,Æ,\0152 <>=,¬diíîïì ®, ©, \2122, \017D, Ç, ,q y:; {} <>?ÅÑ+Ô

Keyboard entries:
00a: ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬­®¯
00b: °±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿
00c: ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏ
00d: ÐÑÒÓÔÕÖרÙÚÛÜÝÞß
00e: àáâãäåæçèéêëìíîï
00f: ðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿ
015: \0152\0153\0160\0161\0178\017D\017E\0192\02C7\02DC\0393\0398\03A6\03B1\03B2\03B4\03B5\03C0\03C3\03C4\03C6
201: \2013\2014\2017\2018\2019\201A\201C\201D\201E\2020\2021\2022\2026\2030\2039\203A\203C\207F\20A7\20AC
210: \2122\2126\2190\2191\2193\2194\2195\2211\221A\221E\221F\2228\2229\2245\2248\2261\2264\2265\2320\2321
250: \2500\2501\2502\250C\2510\2524\252C\2534\253C\2550\2551\2552\2553\2554\2555\2556\2557\2558\2559\255A\255B\255C\255D\255E\255F
256: \2560\2561\2562\2563\2564\2565\2566\2567\2568\2569\256A\256B\2580\2584\2588\258C
259: \2590\2591\2592\2593\25A0\25B2\25BC\25C4\25CB\25D8\25D9
260: \263A\263B\263C\2640\2642\2660\2663\2665\2666\266A\266B

Dick Pape

Thank you, Dick!

I’ve saved the characters-part of your message to paste into a new Test-Font txt.

I discovered a new strangeness: Typograf does not display the sample characters of 4 of my fonts, two of which it claims are corrupted files or evidence of a resources problem. But The Font Thing displays all four with no comments. ??

I am finding FC’s UI remarkably intuitive to get around in.

D_Spider

[post for other thread used to be here]

Hi D_Spider,

I assume you’ve posted your message to the wrong topic, if so, please repost your comment to the correct topic (and then delete the one above).

While reading your original post, I wonder are you still using those font managers, or have you decided to use MainType?

Erwin–

I still use Typograf for managing my fonts. Since that first post was written, I’ve re-installed Windows, and that seems to have solved some of the problems with what’s in C:\Windows\Fonts. I’ve also learned from the advice of other, more experienced people :smiley: .