Need Help With Auto Kerning

Need help on program setting for auto kerning have spent several hours manually kerning pairs after using auto kerning ending with to much white space from character to character and character to punctuation.

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Kerning is a process that can indeed take hours. However before even start to think about kerning, please first make sure the spacing of individual characters is set correctly.

Optical Metrics will take care of that for the basic character set.

Then take a cup of coffee and relax. Kerning just takes time, even if the metrics are good. If you still feel kerning is not working, are you get way too many kerning pairs, then consider to redesign glyphs that don’t seem to go along with the other glyphs in the font.

Ooops! Sorry I had caps on, When I draft I use only upper Alphabet Characters most of the time so I have Caps Lock on, forgot to take it off for above responses.

No problem; and thank you for clarifying!

I hope my other advise (Optical Metrics) helps!

Instread of using Auto-kerning try using Import from Text file on the Manual kerning dialogue. It might have better results, or it might not.

You can adjust the amount of white space to leave in the Auto-kern dialogue, but as Erwin said, get the side-bearings and spacing right first.

One common technique is to use a pair of “N” glyphs in the Before and After positions on the Glyph Comparison toolbar, then scroll through the font adjusting the side-bearings. In the Pro version Optical Metrics will adjust the spacing for you automatically.
Manually Check Side-bearings.png

Thanks for the info I have just purchased the new Create Font 7.5 version Professional so I have the ability to use the auto kern feature, I have seen the before and after letter for kerning on the font I am presently working on, but not sure how to change them as shown in your example.

You cannot change the kerning from the glyph edit window — only see it’s effect. For adjusting the spacing it would be best to uncheck that checkbox (not as illustrated, though it didn’t matter for that font as it had no kerning pairs). To adjust the left side-bearing, select the entire glyph and move it to the right. To adjust the right side-bearing, drag the right side-bearing line with the mouse.

However, since you purchased the Pro version, use the Autometrics feature and see if you are satisfied with the results that it produces. To see several glyphs together, use the Preview Toolbar.

The screen shots in this thread were produced using the Preview Toolbar after running Optical Metrics.

The amount of white space can be set in the Autokern dialogue. I forget what the default is (maybe 350), but by setting the value to, say, 350 funits you will get fewer pairs and more space between them than if you set the value to 150, which would probably result in too many pairs and excessively tight kerning.
White Space.png

After I Kern a font and have the spacing kern values where I can save as a ttf font, is there a way I can save all those kern pairs to use again in font of the same style, if so how? Would be nice would save lots of time if I could import values to fonts of similar styles.

Export as text file from the Manual Kerning dialogue.

Thanks for the reply, have several similar font styles family,with different serif sizes that I need to make TTF fonts, this will save me hours of manually kerning each new font and give the fonts similar kerning.

For the Monument fonts I need to make the font’s bar widths are closer in size since the outline of the lettering need to be sandblasted in the surface of granite, so a Roman font is somewhat more bold compared to a TTF Times Roman font and the outline of the shapes are more Industry Standard that need to match what is presently used in the Granite Monument Industry, have not found any TTF versions on line hoping to make a series of TTF and OTF that can be used by others that need them to produce Industry standard fonts.