# Serif and sans serif features in one font **URL:** \ **Category:** Type Design\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/serif-and-sans-serif-features-in-one-font/3422 "2012-05-29T10:47:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![William](https://forum.high-logic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@William](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/William)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/serif-and-sans-serif-features-in-one-font/3422/1 "2012-05-29T10:47:19Z")
I am reviewing one of my fonts, namely the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font. I have not updated the font for several years. The story of the font starts within a thread named Fonts in Development, where the font was named Pixel Text in its early days. > [@Fonts in development](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/fonts-in-development/820/14): > > I started a new font last Friday morning (it is Monday as I write this text) and have made good progress. I have recently uploaded the latest version of my working copy of the font to the web. It is named Pixel Text 007 and is available from the following link. [http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/PTEXT007.TTF](http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/PTEXT007.TTF) The idea is that I will not alter that font. The next stage would be to start FontCreator, open PTEXT007.TTF, Save As PTEXT008.TTF then use Tools | AutoNaming… to rename the font as … Later, the font was given the name Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady and its own thread in the Gallery forum. > [@Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/sonnet-to-a-renaissance-lady/1403/1): > > The Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font is now published, starting with version 0.14. This is directly derived from the PTEXT014.TTF Pixel Text 014 font, by deleting unused glyphs and the unmapped glyphs produced during the development process, then calculating the ranges and then validating the font. The font is still incomplete, yet I wish to use the font in a pdf and for the name of the font to be displayed in the properties of the pdf document, so I have produced the font. [http://www.users.…](http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/SONNETRL.TTF) The font itself has not been updated since 2008, though a font derived from it, namely Sonnet Calligraphic has been updated quite often. The font has also been used as the starting point for the Localizable Sentences font, where the text characters in the font are from the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font. Indeed a few text characters, such as + and @ have been added into the text character set of the Localizable Sentences font. In any update of the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font, those new glyphs could usefully be copied into the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font. When I started the Sonnet Calligraphic font, starting with a copy of the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font, I changed the design of the lowercase t, making it lower. Recently I was trying to produce an alternate w for the Sonnet Calligraphic font, by using two copies of the letter v. The original w is a curved design. Trying the new design for w, I wondered whether the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font would be better with that design of w as the basic design. Thus I began to review the Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font. Something that I find interesting about the font, something that basically just happened as I produced it, is that ascenders have serifs, descenders have serifs, the part-ascenders have serifs (I do not know the correct term, I have just used part-ascender here for the top of the vertical of m, n, p and r, I am open to learning if there is an existing term) yet there are no baseline serifs and there are no serifs on the capitals and no serifs on the upper parts of some lowercase letters where one might in a serifed font expect to find serifs. I am wondering just how unusual is that combination of serif and sans serif in one font? Does anyone know of any other fonts with a combination of serif and sans serif aspects please? William Overington 29 May 2012 ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Pape](https://forum.high-logic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@Dick\_Pape](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/Dick_Pape)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/serif-and-sans-serif-features-in-one-font/3422/2 "2012-05-31T16:32:46Z")
Checkout fonts named **semi serif**. ![semis.jpg](https://forum.high-logic.com/uploads/default/original/1X/842498831115afd6e43efcb0597ce6e3d7086139.jpeg) Such as: AgfaRotis (or Rotis) SemiSerif, Ecliptica SemiSerif, Ela Demiserif, Keule Semi Serif EF, Libre Semi Serif SSI, Orgánica GMM Semiserif Roman SquircleCirsquare (!) semiserif ---
**Author:** ![William](https://forum.high-logic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@William](https://forum.high-logic.com/u/William)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://forum.high-logic.com/t/serif-and-sans-serif-features-in-one-font/3422/3 "2012-06-01T06:43:29Z")
Thank you for your reply. I had not met the term semi serif before reading your post. So, my Sonnet to a Renaissance Lady font can be described as a semi serif font. Thank you. William Overington 1 June 2012