Hello, I bought the Home edition of FontCreator for one reason: to fix a specific problem with fonts.
Before replying please read this thread: http://www.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110288
This thread documents a three month long attempt to diagnose and fix this problem.
In the time since that attempt I have learned a bit more about the problem and its symptoms.
First, by some means the kerning seems to have been removed from the fonts, causing obvious spacing issues.
Second, it appears that somehow the hinting on the fonts has been damaged or removed causing the fonts to be, quite frankly, painful to read.
Third, I have examined six different computers and they all exhibit the same symptoms.
One of the problems which is not covered in the link above ,but is probably very important in diagnosing the problem, is the problems effects on mono-spaced fonts. The problems shown in mono-spaced fonts include glyphs overlapping in addition to the problems shown in all other fonts.
In the above article the section on Color seems to describe accurately the problem most fonts display, namely that the glyphs in a single font are of greatly varying stroke widths and weights. The spacing section also shows a good example of the problem affecting mono-spaced fonts.
I will get some screen shots of mono-spaced fonts up soon in order to illustrate the overlapping of the glyphs in said fonts.
In the forum linked to at the top of my post there is a rather large amount of screen-shots of text.
And the problems are not with modified or custom fonts, but rather with all fonts on a given computer; I bought FontCreator not to MAKE fonts but rather to FIX them.
From a font point of view, looks like bad hints. Easy to check by removing the hinting Tables in Font Creator (Format/Tables/Remove Hinting). It’s a permanent change so change the name of the font and do a Save As under the new name.
Well I removed the hinting tables from one of the fonts in the album (Mona krkr2), and there was no discernible difference in the text.
Its not just the fonts I posted that have problems, the “W” in the “Well” at the beginning of this post obviously has no kerning information…
You normally wouldn’t have kerning on monospaced fonts.
I am unfamiliar with the font Mona krkr2. Do you know which foundry produced it? Can you use it in a Wordpad example?
Can you substitute an entirely different font for it, not one that comes with the game? (e.g., replace one the game fonts with a standard OS font. Saving the original.) Could the problem come from the software that puts/merges the text onto the image? The fact that the g are misaligned seemingly points to the software not the font unless the font is verrry poorly done.
Those fatter/narrower shapes are often caused when character images lie between screen resolutions. Vertical or horizontal strokes have more pixels turned on than diagonal ones making the verticals appear fatter. (Upper case makes it worse.) Can you print the image from the application (not from screen prints)?
I will see if I can capture a image from inside the application but for now heres a example of a monospaced font, pretty sure the font name is Suzunami Gothic.
Copyright: (C) 1990-2003 Wada Laboratory, Univ. of Tokyo. 2003-04 /efont/. All rights reserved.
I will see if theres a way to capture an image from inside a application and upload a shot of the fonts “The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog” example after I get back from Christmas shopping.
This was a clear sample of text. There seem to be pairs of letters with problems. Aligning too tight when in front of an “e”. And aligning too far apart in front of an “i”.
Rasterization changes fonts to bitmaps and there are strategies for forming letters based on which operating system is being used.
Font rasterization is the process of converting text from a vector description (as found in scalable fonts such as TrueType fonts) to a raster or bitmap description. This often involves some anti-aliasing on screen text to make it smoother and easier to read. It may also involve “hinting”, that is, the use of information precomputed for a particular font size.
Often when printed by the application, not displayed on the screen, fonts show correctly.
I don’t know if rasterization can be altered – they hint at hinting solutions. FC doesn’t do hinting. And I don’t know if Japanese fonts use a different rastercizing method.
I’ve just received a font from Orois. This screenshot of a single glyph shows both left and right side bearings are not set correct.
bearingsissue.jpg
Please correct the bearings, as explained in FontCreator user manual:
In the Glyph Edit window there are two vertical lines (normally the glyph outline lies in between these lines) that represent the left and right side bearings. These are shown by default but you can hide them through the Show Metrics button on the Drawing toolbar. The left and right side bearings can be changed by dragging them to their desired position. You can also adjust the bearings when you right click a glyph in the Glyph Overview window and select Properties. Here you can alter the left side bearing and the advance width. White space should be evenly distributed between the left and right side bearings of glyphs except when font is specifically designed with ligatures for joining characters in a cursive script font.
Note: Lining numbers (i.e. the digits 0 - 9) should all have the same advance width.
I did not send you a font… unless I did It while I was sleepwalking or something…
Anyway I think someone might have tricked you because one of the first things I checked was the left/right bearing and thats fine on all the fonts. Did you receive the font by email? Because my email address is [email protected], anything else and its not me. I will send you a font if you want me to, but I’ve never seen that “N” before in my life .
Alright, I just finished the email and will send it as soon as a 9MB font file finishes uploading. Also included in the email, is something I would like you to try for testing mono-spaced fonts. Details are in the email, which I am sending to support as: Severe Font Problems (Orois). It has my name on it, so no mixing it up OK?
I’ve received two font files. I only opened one of them. That font (not a monospaced font) looks just fine in FontCreator. I must add I only tested it within the Font Test dialog. So I suspect the software that takes care of showing text is causing problems.
Yeah, it just now occurred to me that I should have mentioned that the fonts look fine in the test window for me as well.
Alright, so the problem is not the fonts (not counting the kerning being removed from some, but that’s a separate issue) but rather something that occurs whilst rendering the text.
Its not the program itself that is the problem as it occurs everywhere, even in MS Word. (See album for images)
I have found the problem on four laptops and two desktops, so its not a hardware issue.
I briefly encountered this problem six months ago on my laptop, but after a few weeks a virus wiped my hard-drive and after reinstalling the OS the problem was gone. When I first encountered it this time reinstalling the OS did make it go away… but only for a few hours.
I would appreciate any opinions on the possible causes of this as, in case you haven’t noticed, it REALLY annoys me.
Can you post a picture of an example of the font in Word? At the very least it could serve as a reference to what it SHOULD look like.
Mona krkr2 in MS word:
Edit: Oh, I told you about a program I wanted you to download in my email and wanted to elaborate; the program comes with the Suzunami Gothic font and I just wanted to see if the text would display correctly on your end.
Edit: Oh, I told you about a program I wanted you to download in my email and wanted to elaborate; the program comes with the Suzunami Gothic font and I just wanted to see if the text would display correctly on your end.
I would like to compare my image with yours so I have a picture of the correctly displayed text vs. the incorrectly displayed.
I’m sorry but installing third party software is out of scope of our support. I suggest you contact narcissu.insani.org and ask them for support instead.
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