Unable to kern Greek letters

I’m trying to kern pi to letters and numbers, but in the OTD I am unable to kern Greek letters though it shows in the top window, it does not show in the bottom window. When I click on the pi symbol in the bottom window, it does not register anything.
Pi.png
As you can see, in the pic, the top window shows the kerning but the bottom window does not. The same is true for Sigma. When I call the symbol Sigma with the unicode, it does not register. When I name it Summation, it does. This leads me to believe that there is something askew about Greek letters.
Erwin, I have emailed you the project file.

Thanks and Blessings,

Jonne

This is indeed an issue which needs to be addressed.

However, we have a dilemma here as the fix will now treat the combination π2 as Greek script, while you use it in your Latin script. You can overcome this by forcing to use the Latin script instead of Auto.

The fix will become available soon.

I think a fix is needed too. I don’t know how to go about it, I trust you will figure it out.

Blessings,

Jonne

I have forced Latin, I just await the fix.

Jonne

This release should solve the problem, so let us know your results:
FontCreator 11.0.0.2410 (64-bit)

Erwin!

Thanks!! Worked like a charm. I just had to remember to force Latin.

Thankyou for getting it done so quickly!

Blessings,

Jonne

Erwin,

I hate to say it but the update seems to have broken something. As per the pic, you notice that "2A"does not kern in the bottom window.
Two A.png

I don’t know what’s going on.

Thanks ahead of time,

Jonne

The screenshot doesn’t reveal which script you have selected.

Here it is,
Two A with script.png
Jonne

Just to clarify, I’m not using “Custom” as it shows in the pic, I’m using Default. Neither worked anyway.

Do send me the font project file :wink:

Erwin,

Sending now.

Jonne

The digit “2” is either in a run of text for Latin or for Greek, not both :wink:

Do try this text:
π2A A2π

Also test it in Firefox, and you’ll see if has the same result. You’re mixing text in a way which is not normal, so better avoid such text, or at least use a space between Latin and Greek text.

I’ve tried. It doesn’t seem to recognize any letter or number placed before a Greek letter. I need to be able to kern letters to Greek letters. Also, the script changes to Auto everytime I close and open the OTD. Very inconvenient. The Greek letters kern when it is the first letter in a pair, just not as the second in a pair.

So I humbly request that this be fixed in the next release. I cannot abide not being able to kern regular letters with Greek letters.

Blessings,

Jonne

It now seems that the update has broken more than just normal latin text to Greek. “2B” does not register in the kerning window now.

Thank you.

Jonne

Erwin,

In the meantime, can you make version 2409 available to me. I’d rather not have the Greek working what with the bugs in 2410, in 2409 at least I was able to kern regular latin like “2B”. I have installed 2405 to see if it works, and indeed it does. So the problem it seems was introduced during 2410.

Blessings,

Jonne

Erwin,

Nevermind making 2409 available. I’ve installed 2405 and updated to 2408. Every thing is working except for kerning Greek letters.

Jonne

Version 2410 seems to work similar to Firefox and Microsoft Word, so even though you don’t like it, it is working just fine.

Erwin,

I don’t understand why I’m unable to kern “2B” in 2410 and yet I am able to in 2408. Also in 2408 I am able to kern a class which contains Greek letters, though it doesn’t kern the Greek it is able to kern the other glyphs in that class. This I am unable to do in 2410. I don’t understand.

Thanks,

Jonne

You can kern it in version 2410, but not if it comes right after a non-Latin character!

A shaping engine will break text into smaller trunks, it will split when it detects another script.