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New Character

Post by voyager » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:46 am

Hi,
I add 6 new character on F6CB, F6CC, F6CD, F6CE, F6CF and F6D0
I saved and exported but I cannot see these characters in word.
Thank you

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Re: New Character

Post by Erwin Denissen » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:55 am

They will work, just copy and paste this line of text:



You can also use the Insert Symbol feature within Word to add characters.
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Personally I don't recommend using the private use area, as such "characters" are not equal for all fonts.
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Re: New Character

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:19 am

Erwin Denissen wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:55 am
Personally I don't recommend using the private use area, as such "characters" are not equal for all fonts.
If characters have no code-points defined by the Unicode Consortium, what else can one do besides using the Private Use Area? One can leave them unmapped, but then the only way to type them would be by using OpenType features.

It might be practical to add Standard Ligatures for M~ m~ Q~ and q~ to substitute M tilde and Q tilde, but how should one define Q dot above?

I am curious to know why voyager needs these glyphs; which language uses them?
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Re: New Character

Post by PJMiller » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:52 am

The same could also be achieved by using a character followed by a combining diacritic mark, if the anchors had been set up correctly.

'Tilde' and 'dot above' are standard diacritics.

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Re: New Character

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:09 am

Here is a test font.

I set up the accented glyphs as Standard Ligatures. To avoid possible conflicts with abbreviations, I set Q dot above to use two periods. Type:
  • Q.. to insert Qdotaccent
  • q.. to insert qdotaccent
  • Q~ to insert Qtilde
  • q~to insert qtilde
  • M~ to insert Mtilde
  • m~ to insert mtilde.
Test in FontCreator's font test window, Notepad, Wordpad, or Word.
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Re: New Character

Post by voyager » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:58 pm

Hi,
Thank you very much,
But I am just a new user soul could you explain how can create this characters in details, please.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:09 am
Here is a test font.

I set up the accented glyphs as Standard Ligatures. To avoid possible conflicts with abbreviations, I set Q dot above to use two periods. Type:
  • Q.. to insert Qdotaccent
  • q.. to insert qdotaccent
  • Q~ to insert Qtilde
  • q~to insert qtilde
  • M~ to insert Mtilde
  • m~ to insert mtilde.
Test in FontCreator's font test window, Notepad, Wordpad, or Word.

q dotaccent.gif

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Re: New Character

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:50 pm

voyager wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:58 pm
I am just a new user soul could you explain how can create this characters in details, please.
Open my font to see how it is done. The new glyphs are at the end of the font.
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Re: New Character

Post by voyager » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:15 am

Hi,
I can see the font in Font Creator editor but I cannot see them in MS Word 2016 again. How can I find the new character in MS Word 2016.
Also, I couldn't see the new characters on Font Creator test module.
Plese, review the attachment.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:50 pm
voyager wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:58 pm
I am just a new user soul could you explain how can create this characters in details, please.
Open my font to see how it is done. The new glyphs are at the end of the font.
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Re: New Character

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:30 am

Did you type:

Q.. to insert Qdotaccent
q.. to insert qdotaccent
Q~ to insert Qtilde
q~to insert qtilde
M~ to insert Mtilde
m~ to insert mtilde.
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Re: New Character

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:06 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:30 am
Did you type:

Q.. to insert Qdotaccent
q.. to insert qdotaccent
Q~ to insert Qtilde
q~to insert qtilde
M~ to insert Mtilde
m~ to insert mtilde.
The new glyphs have no code-points, so they won't show up in any character map. However, they are easy to insert using Standard Ligatures, just like ligature ffi is easily inserted by typing f f i these new glyphs are inserted by typing m~ etc.

This method avoids the problems associated with mapping them to the Private Use Area. If you later change the font to one that does not support mtilde, the original text string of m~ will be seen.
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Re: New Character

Post by voyager » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:37 pm

I added it in MS Word 2016 but it does not appear.
I just would like to add a new character to any font and use it İnsert > symbol in MS Word 2016.
Thank you.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:06 am
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:30 am
Did you type:

Q.. to insert Qdotaccent
q.. to insert qdotaccent
Q~ to insert Qtilde
q~to insert qtilde
M~ to insert Mtilde
m~ to insert mtilde.
The new glyphs have no code-points, so they won't show up in any character map. However, they are easy to insert using Standard Ligatures, just like ligature ffi is easily inserted by typing f f i these new glyphs are inserted by typing m~ etc.

This method avoids the problems associated with mapping them to the Private Use Area. If you later change the font to one that does not support mtilde, the original text string of m~ will be seen.
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Re: New Character

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:56 pm

voyager wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:37 pm
I added it in MS Word 2016 but it does not appear.
I don't have Word 2016 to test, but I am sure that it will support Standard Ligatures. If you want to do it the hard way by using Character Map then the answer was already give above by Erwin.
Erwin Denissen wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:55 am
They will work, just copy and paste this line of text:



You can also use the Insert Symbol feature within Word to add characters.

Personally I don't recommend using the private use area, as such "characters" are not equal for all fonts.
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Re: New Character

Post by voyager » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:33 pm

Hi,
I found the solution. And this is very important reminder I think.
If we add a new character to a font and then we install it over previous version We cannot see the new characters. I don't know why.
But if we delete the previous version then install it, we can see the new characters.
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