Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

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Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Jonne Haven » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:17 am

About a week ago I was excited to learn that Windows now seems to support CALT and Kerning. But there are issues I wondered if y'all might have some insight into. Attached is examples of my font getting cut off I couldn't circle all of them but there are many more than I circled in red. My glyphs do not go past winascent and windescent. Windows has some glitches the most annoying is the cutting off of fonts in List view...and it's only List view. Details view.... all seem to work fine.

I've tried changing font size to no avail. The problem occurs no matter how big or small I make the font. I've scoured the internet but there seems to be no solution so I thought I turn to some experts.
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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Jonne Haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:57 am

No takers?

Would it help if I sent my font to someone. Erwin?

Thanks!

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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Erwin Denissen » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 am

Usually text has to fit an imaginary box in user interfaces.

You could adjust the vertical font line spacing, or make the outlines smaller, but both affect the appearance of your font.
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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Jonne Haven » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:08 pm

Thanks for your reply. Attached is my metric settings. Please advise on what and if something needs to be changed to fit that "imaginary box".

I appreciate it!
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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Erwin Denissen » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:17 am

Disable the "Include vertical spacing..." check box, as that is not relevant for your font.

Click the Calculate button within the Spacing area. If that doesn't solve the issue, you might need to downsize your glyph outlines, or increase the upem.
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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Jonne Haven » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:13 pm

Thanks Erwin for your reply and help. I tried the calculate and turned off the vertical spacing option to no avail. Forgive my ignorance but could you tell me what UPEM is?


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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by MikeW » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:03 am

May I suggest looking at one of the system fonts and note what its values are? Then make yours the same, or at least similar.

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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:05 am

Jonne Haven wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:13 pm
Forgive my ignorance but could you tell me what UPEM is?
upem = Funits per em, usually 2048 for Windows fonts and 1000 for Mac fonts.

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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Jonne Haven » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:33 am

Thanks for your replies.

It seems that windows doesn't allow for any modification that I'm aware of the font size working with it because even the default font, Segoe, cuts off if changed to anything above 9 point.

Does anyone know more about this?

I have tried scaling down my own font using FontCreator Scaling but that did not work either.

A bit frustrating but there are far worse things in life.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Font getting cutoff in FontCreator, Windows, and others

Post by Jonne Haven » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:23 pm

Jonne here.

Happy Thanksgiving all!

I think I've figured out how Windows treats foreign fonts. Windows seems to never have been intended to use anything but Segoe at 9 to 10 points (in List View). It is more pliable with most other views. I'm using Winaero Tweaker to change different compartments of windows. List view is the strictest facet. And the rules behind how List View works is not user friendly. Long story short and a lot of trial and error, a glyph height from top to bottom can only be approximately 2500 points. I squeezed in 2523 points without my largest glyph getting cut off. In other words, my properties for win ascent is 1868 and win descent is -655. I give each glyph a few points buffer from the win ascent and descent for safety.

Thanks for all who replied!

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