Autometrics

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Autometrics

Post by MikeW » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:49 am

I think it would benefit users if there was a No Change option for digits when one invokes the Autometrics option.
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If one redoes an existing font and has already set the widths for tabular and proportional digits, an either or option isn't as useful as a Don't Touch 'Em option when running autometrics.

(Yep, I know one can copy the digits and paste back afterwards.)

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Re: Autometrics

Post by PJMiller » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:50 am

I would also find this useful.

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Re: Autometrics

Post by Erwin Denissen » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:34 am

Consider it done!
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Re: Autometrics

Post by MikeW » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:52 pm

Excellent, thanks. Mike

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Re: Autometrics

Post by MikeW » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:42 pm

Hmm. I guess I didn't think this out really well.

How would FC know that a particular glyph is a digit?

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Re: Autometrics

Post by Erwin Denissen » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:47 pm

It will only discover 0-9
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Re: Autometrics

Post by MikeW » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:56 pm

Which, in a fuller font, isn't enough...so I'll keep tagging, switching to the tag, highlighting those glyphs, copying and pasting. There are pre-composed fractions, pnum, tnum, sups/denoms, etc., to deal with.

So because FC would only logically consider the 0–9 digits, you might want to save yourself the bother as that would mean that the two choices are perfectly logical for them.

Is there the possibility to use a tag system whereby FC would skip a certain tag if a glyph would be thus tagged?

I only thought about this as I was comparing the results of the Auto Kern feature, both where I set the metrics and following using Auto Metrics. I almost never use either option and it was a good exercise to go through yesterday.

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Re: Autometrics

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:00 pm

MikeW wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:56 pm
There are pre-composed fractions, pnum, tnum, sups/denoms, etc., to deal with.

So because FC would only logically consider the 0–9 digits, you might want to save yourself the bother as that would mean that the two choices are perfectly logical for them.
I wonder why you need optical metrics to calculate spacing for anything other than the regular digits. I would run autometrics first, then generate the superscripts, and other figures like onum, pnum, or tnum.

After generating the superscripts I would generate the subscripts, denominators, scientific inferiors, and standard fractions using complete composites.

Autometrics might change the advance width for regular lining figures that have been matched with maths symbols so an option not to change them would be useful
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Re: Autometrics

Post by MikeW » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:01 pm

I don't want Auto Metrics to run on everything. That's the point.

I think a tag to skip what Auto Kern runs against would fit the bill.

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Re: Autometrics

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:33 pm

This has now been implemented in FontCreator 11.0 build 2400
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