Kerning pairs and small caps fonts

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jennie_z
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Kerning pairs and small caps fonts

Post by jennie_z »

I often use FontCreator to develop decorative Small Caps style fonts but find that kerning is a problem because I need to account for not only Upper to Lower case pairs, but Lower to Uppercase.

For instance, I might use the font to display the text
"She turned me into a newT"
(Sorry, Monty Python fan :P )
And so now not only do I have a problem with the Tw combination but the wT as well ...and all the other slanty and off balance glyphs as well... aT/At, Ta/tA, aV/Av, Va/vA... you can see how fun this is.
And in my line of work I've found that I need to account for every possibility, including pairs that don't normally go together, or I'll just regret it later anyway. :)

Font Creator includes a text list of recommended kerning pairs for regular & extended fonts, which really comes in handy when using the auto-kerning feature. However, either of these lists leaves out a huge number of the problem pairs.

by any chance would one of you have a text list that you use to create these kerning pairs? Or, if not, if I developed one, would anyone else out there benefit from my efforts if I shared the file?

In either case I'm off to get a third cup of coffee this morning. :)
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Kerning Pairs List

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typophile.com (no numbers or specials except ')

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CAP/CAP
A' AC AG AO AQ AT AU AV AW AY
BA BE BL BP BR BU BV BW BY 
CA CO CR 
DA DD DE DI DL DM DN DO DP DR DU DV DW DY 
EC EO 
FA FC FG FO F. F, 
GE GO GR GU 
HO 
IC IG IO 
JA JO 
KO 
L' LC LT LV LW LY
LG LO LU 
M MG MO 
NC NG NO 
OA OB OD OE OF OH OI OK OL OM ON OP OR OT OU OV OW OX OY 
PA PE PL PO PP PU PY P. P, P; P:
QU 
RC RG RY RT RU RV RW RY 
SI SM ST SU 
TA TC TO  
UA UC UG UO US 
VA VC VG VO VS 
WA WC WG WO 
YA YC YO YS 
ZO

CAP/LOWER
Ac Ad Ae Ag Ao Ap Aq At Au Av Aw Ay 
Bb Bi Bk Bl Br Bu By B. B, 
Ca Cr C. C, 
Da D. D, 
Eu Ev 
Fa Fe Fi Fo Fr Ft Fu Fy F. F, F; F:
Gu
He Ho Hu Hy 
Ic Id Iq Io It
Ja Je Jo Ju J. J,
Ke Ko Ku
Lu Ly
Ma Mc Md Me Mo Nu Na Ne Ni No Nu N. N,
Oa Ob Oh Ok Ol O. O,
Pa Pe Po 
Rd Re Ro Rt Ru 
Si Sp Su S. S,
Ta Tc Te Ti To Tr Ts Tu Tw Ty T. T, T; T:
Ua Ug Um Un Up Us U. U,
Va Ve Vi Vo Vr Vu V. V, V; V:
Wd Wi Wm Wr Wt Wu Wy W. W, W; W:
Xa Xe Xo Xu Xy 
Yd Ye Yi Yp Yu Yv Y. Y, Y; Y:

LOWER/LOWER
ac ad ae ag ap af at au av aw ay ap
bl br bu by b. b,
ca ch ck 
da dc de dg do dt du dv dw dy d. d,
ea ei el em en ep er et eu ev ew ey e. e,
fa fe ff fi fl fo f. f,
ga ge gh gl go gg g. g,
hc hd he hg ho hp ht hu hv hw hy
ic id ie ig io ip it iu iv
ja je jo ju j. j,
ka kc kd ke kg ko 
la lc ld le lf lg lo lp lq  lu lv lw ly
ma mc md me mg mn mo mp mt mu mv my 
nc nd ne ng no np nt nu nv nw ny
ob of oh oj ok ol om on op or ou ov ow ox oy o. o,
pa ph pi pl pp pu p. p, 
qu t.
ra rd re rg rk rl rm rn ro rq rr rt rv ry r. r, 
sh st su s. s, 
td ta te to t. t, 
ua uc ud ue ug uo up uq ut uv uw uy 
va vb vc vd ve vg vo vv vy v. v,
wa wx wd we wg wh wo w. w,
xa xe xo 
y. y, ya yc yd ye yo
FIN.
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A            -113  space A
T             -37  space T
Y             -37  space Y
\0386        -113  space Alphatonos
\0391        -113  space Alpha
\0394        -113  space Delta
\039B        -113  space Lambda
\03A4         -37  space Tau
\03A5         -37  space Upsilon
\03AB         -37  space Upsilondieresis
11            -152  one one
A             -113  A space
AT            -152  A T
AV            -152  A V
AW             -76  A W
AY            -152  A Y
Av             -37  A v
Aw             -37  A w
Ay             -37  A y
A\2019        -152  A quoteright
F,            -227  F comma
F.            -227  F period
FA            -113  F A
L              -76  L space
LT            -152  L T
LV            -152  L V
LW            -152  L W
LY            -152  L Y
Ly             -76  L y
L\2019        -113  L quoteright
P              -37  P space
P,            -264  P comma
P.            -264  P period
PA            -152  P A
RT             -37  R T
RV             -37  R V
RW             -37  R W
RY             -37  R Y
T              -37  T space
T,            -227  T comma
T-            -113  T hyphen
T.            -227  T period
T:            -227  T colon
T;            -227  T semicolon
TA            -152  T A
TO             -37  T O
Ta            -227  T a
Tc            -227  T c
Te            -227  T e
Ti             -76  T i
To            -227  T o
Tr             -76  T r
Ts            -227  T s
Tu             -76  T u
Tw            -113  T w
Ty            -113  T y
V,            -188  V comma
V-            -113  V hyphen
V.            -188  V period
V:             -76  V colon
V;             -76  V semicolon
VA            -152  V A
Va            -152  V a
Ve            -113  V e
Vi             -37  V i
Vo            -113  V o
Vr             -76  V r
Vu             -76  V u
Vy             -76  V y
W,            -113  W comma
W-             -37  W hyphen
W.            -113  W period
W:             -37  W colon
W;             -37  W semicolon
WA             -76  W A
Wa             -76  W a
We             -37  W e
Wi               0  W i
Wo             -37  W o
Wr             -37  W r
Wu             -37  W u
Wy             -18  W y
Y              -37  Y space
Y,            -264  Y comma
Y-            -188  Y hyphen
Y.            -264  Y period
Y:            -113  Y colon
Y;            -133  Y semicolon
YA            -152  Y A
Ya            -152  Y a
Ye            -188  Y e
Yi             -76  Y i
Yo            -188  Y o
Yp            -152  Y p
Yq            -188  Y q
Yu            -113  Y u
Yv            -113  Y v
ff             -37  f f
f\2019          37  f quoteright
r,            -113  r comma
r.            -113  r period
r\2019          76  r quoteright
v,            -152  v comma
v.            -152  v period
w,            -113  w comma
w.            -113  w period
y,            -152  y comma
y.            -152  y period
\2018\2018     -37  quoteleft quoteleft
\2019          -76  quoteright space
\2019s         -37  quoteright s
\2019\2019     -37  quoteright quoteright
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\0393,        -225  Gamma comma
\0393.        -225  Gamma period
\0393\0390     164  Gamma iotadieresistonos
\0393\0391    -188  Gamma Alpha
\0393\0394    -188  Gamma Delta
\0393\039B    -188  Gamma Lambda
\0393\03B9     -88  Gamma iota
\0393\03CA      88  Gamma iotadieresis
\0398\0391     -37  Theta Alpha
\0398\0394     -37  Theta Delta
\0398\039B     -37  Theta Lambda
\0398\03A5     -66  Theta Upsilon
\0398\03AB     -66  Theta Upsilondieresis
\03A6\0391     -59  Phi Alpha
\03A6\03A5     -66  Phi Upsilon
\03A6\03AB     -66  Phi Upsilondieresis
\03B4\03C4     -29  delta tau
\03B4\03BB     -39  delta lambda
\03B4\03C7     -55  delta chi
\03B4\03C0     -29  delta pi
\03C4\03B1     -29  tau alpha
\03C4\03B4     -29  tau delta
\03C4\03C3     -29  tau sigma
\03C4\03C6     -29  tau phi
\03C4\03AC     -29  tau alphatonos
\03C4\03B6     -29  tau zeta
\03C4\03BF     -29  tau omicron
\03C4\03C2     -29  tau sigma1
\03C4\03C9     -29  tau omega
\03C4\03CE     -29  tau omegatonos
\03C6\03C4     -29  phi tau
\03C6\03BB     -39  phi lambda
\03C6\03C7     -55  phi chi
\03C6\03C0     -29  phi pi
\0386\0398     -43  Alphatonos Theta
\0386\03A6     -59  Alphatonos Phi
\0386\039F     -43  Alphatonos Omicron
\0386\03A4    -152  Alphatonos Tau
\0386\03A5    -152  Alphatonos Upsilon
\0386\03AB    -152  Alphatonos Upsilondieresis
\0386\03B3     -37  Alphatonos gamma
\0386\03BD     -37  Alphatonos nu
\0386\03C7     -37  Alphatonos chi
\038C\03A5     -66  Omicrontonos Upsilon
\038E\0398    -115  Upsilontonos Theta
\038E\03A6    -115  Upsilontonos Phi
\038E\03B1    -186  Upsilontonos alpha
\038E\03C3    -186  Upsilontonos sigma
\038E\03C6    -186  Upsilontonos phi
\038E\0390     170  Upsilontonos iotadieresistonos
\038E\0391    -152  Upsilontonos Alpha
\038E\0394    -152  Upsilontonos Delta
\038E\039B    -152  Upsilontonos Lambda
\038E\039F    -115  Upsilontonos Omicron
\038E\03A9     -98  Upsilontonos Omega
\038E\03AE    -152  Upsilontonos etatonos
\038E\03AF     -76  Upsilontonos iotatonos
\038E\03B7    -152  Upsilontonos eta
\038E\03B9     -76  Upsilontonos iota
\038E\03BA    -152  Upsilontonos kappa
\038E\03BC    -152  Upsilontonos mu
\038E\03BF    -186  Upsilontonos omicron
\038E\03CA      98  Upsilontonos iotadieresis
\038E\03CC    -186  Upsilontonos omicrontonos
\038F\03A5     -47  Omegatonos Upsilon
\038F\03AB     -47  Omegatonos Upsilondieresis
\0391         -113  Alpha space
\0391\2019    -152  Alpha quoteright
\0391\0398     -43  Alpha Theta
\0391\03A6     -59  Alpha Phi
\0391\039F     -43  Alpha Omicron
\0391\03A4    -152  Alpha Tau
\0391\03A5    -152  Alpha Upsilon
\0391\03AB    -152  Alpha Upsilondieresis
\0391\03B3     -37  Alpha gamma
\0391\03BD     -37  Alpha nu
\0391\03C7     -37  Alpha chi
\0394         -113  Delta space
\0394\0398     -43  Delta Theta
\0394\039F     -43  Delta Omicron
\0394\03A4    -119  Delta Tau
\0394\03A5    -152  Delta Upsilon
\0394\03AB    -152  Delta Upsilondieresis
\039A\0398     -63  Kappa Theta
\039A\03A6    -113  Kappa Phi
\039A\03B1     -25  Kappa alpha
\039A\03B4     -25  Kappa delta
\039A\03C3     -25  Kappa sigma
\039A\03C6     -25  Kappa phi
\039A\039F     -63  Kappa Omicron
\039A\03AC     -25  Kappa alphatonos
\039A\03B6     -25  Kappa zeta
\039A\03B8     -25  Kappa theta
\039A\03BE     -25  Kappa xi
\039A\03BF     -25  Kappa omicron
\039A\03C9     -25  Kappa omega
\039A\03CC     -25  Kappa omicrontonos
\039A\03CE     -25  Kappa omegatonos
\039B         -113  Lambda space
\039B\0398     -43  Lambda Theta
\039B\039F     -43  Lambda Omicron
\039B\03A4    -152  Lambda Tau
\039B\03A5    -152  Lambda Upsilon
\039B\03AB    -152  Lambda Upsilondieresis
\039F\0391     -37  Omicron Alpha
\039F\0394     -43  Omicron Delta
\039F\039B     -37  Omicron Lambda
\039F\03A5     -66  Omicron Upsilon
\039F\03AB     -66  Omicron Upsilondieresis
\03A1          -37  Rho space
\03A1,        -262  Rho comma
\03A1.        -262  Rho period
\03A1\0391    -152  Rho Alpha
\03A1\0394    -152  Rho Delta
\03A1\039B    -152  Rho Lambda
\03A3\03C4     -98  Sigma tau
\03A3\03C0     -98  Sigma pi
\03A4          -37  Tau space
\03A4,        -225  Tau comma
\03A4.        -225  Tau period
\03A4:        -225  Tau colon
\03A4;        -225  Tau semicolon
\03A4\0398     -37  Tau Theta
\03A4\03A6     -37  Tau Phi
\03A4\03B1    -225  Tau alpha
\03A4\03B5    -225  Tau epsilon
\03A4\03C3    -225  Tau sigma
\03A4\03C6    -225  Tau phi
\03A4\0390     188  Tau iotadieresistonos
\03A4\0391    -152  Tau Alpha
\03A4\0394    -152  Tau Delta
\03A4\039B    -152  Tau Lambda
\03A4\039F     -37  Tau Omicron
\03A4\03A9     -37  Tau Omega
\03A4\03AC    -225  Tau alphatonos
\03A4\03AD    -225  Tau epsilontonos
\03A4\03B0    -178  Tau upsilondieresistonos
\03A4\03B3    -178  Tau gamma
\03A4\03B7    -150  Tau eta
\03A4\03B9     -76  Tau iota
\03A4\03BC    -150  Tau mu
\03A4\03BD    -113  Tau nu
\03A4\03BF    -225  Tau omicron
\03A4\03C5    -176  Tau upsilon
\03A4\03C7    -113  Tau chi
\03A4\03C8    -150  Tau psi
\03A4\03CA     188  Tau iotadieresis
\03A4\03CB    -178  Tau upsilondieresis
\03A4\03CC    -225  Tau omicrontonos
\03A4\03CD    -178  Tau upsilontonos
\03A5          -37  Upsilon space
\03A5,        -262  Upsilon comma
\03A5-        -186  Upsilon hyphen
\03A5.        -262  Upsilon period
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\03A5\0394    -152  Upsilon Delta
\03A5\039B    -152  Upsilon Lambda
\03A5\039F    -115  Upsilon Omicron
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\03A8\03B8     -39  Psi theta
\03A8\03BF     -78  Psi omicron
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\03AB\039F    -115  Upsilondieresis Omicron
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\03BA\03CE     -25  kappa omegatonos
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\03BB\03CE     -31  lambda omegatonos
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\03BE\03B6     -55  xi zeta
\03BE\03BE     -55  xi xi
\03BE\03BF     -55  xi omicron
\03BE\03C2     -55  xi sigma1
\03BE\03CC     -55  xi omicrontonos
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\03BF\03C7     -55  omicron chi
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\03C1\03C0     -29  rho pi
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\03C7\03B4     -55  chi delta
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\03C7\03AC     -55  chi alphatonos
\03C7\03B6     -55  chi zeta
\03C7\03BF     -55  chi omicron
\03C7\03C2     -55  chi sigma1
\03C7\03C9     -55  chi omega
\03C7\03CC     -55  chi omicrontonos
\03C7\03CE     -55  chi omegatonos
\03C9\03C4     -29  omega tau
\03C9\03BB     -39  omega lambda
\03C9\03C7     -55  omega chi
\03C9\03C0     -29  omega pi
\03CC\03C4     -29  omicrontonos tau
\03CC\03BB     -39  omicrontonos lambda
\03CC\03C7     -55  omicrontonos chi
\03CC\03C0     -29  omicrontonos pi
\03CE\03C4     -29  omegatonos tau
\03CE\03BB     -39  omegatonos lambda
\03CE\03C7     -55  omegatonos chi
\03CE\03C0     -29  omegatonos pi
\0403,        -250  afii10052 comma
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Post by Bhikkhu Pesala »

If you're using the Professional edition of FontCreator, you can use the automatic kerning wizard. It will generate all permutations.

One of my main gripes about this is that it generates lowercase/Uppercase pairs, which are generally not needed, so have to be removed afterwards to reduce the work load of adjusting kerning pairs. If you look at a professional font like Palatino Linotype, you won't find these pairs.

If the kerning wizard had an option to omit these pairs it would be more useful. Currently, it can only handles 128 glyphs at a time.

The option to import/export kerning pairs from/to a text file is my preferrred method for generating kerning pairs, but it is font specific, and Small Caps fonts will need different values to a regular font of a similar design. Italics styles also need different values.

Kerning pairs still need a lot of manual adjustment, though at least this is now very much easier in FontCreator 5.6 than it was in earlier versions.
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Post by jennie_z »

Wowsers! thanks for the quick replies. I'll try that list. I even read some typophile articles on small caps before posting here, but I guess I missed that one.
I have trouble with the auto-kerning. I find that having a preset list much easier. Either I end up with too many, too few, or it won't even let me auto-kern so many at once. :) I'm still relatively a newbie so I'm sure I'm just doing something wrong when configure the auto-kern settings.

I don't think I ever trust the computer without checking them over myself, but it's always nice to have a starting point.

Have a terrific day!
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Post by Bhikkhu Pesala »

jennie_z wrote:I have trouble with the auto-kerning. I find that having a preset list much easier. Either I end up with too many, too few, or it won't even let me auto-kern so many at once. :) I'm still relatively a newbie so I'm sure I'm just doing something wrong when configure the auto-kern settings.
The autokern wizard has a limit of 128 glphs because 128 x 128 = 16,384 possible kerning pairs.
I don't think I ever trust the computer without checking them over myself, but it's always nice to have a starting point.
You're right, you cannot trust any automated method to get it right.

You can adjust the white space value and try again, but you may still find some pairs that are too tightly kerned, like C- or T.

Take a look at Ikern.
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