Weird thing happening with points

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Weird thing happening with points

Post by Karin1610 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:46 am

There's something strange going on when I'm moving outlines.
I imported a letter made in Corel Draw and it showed fine with no faulty points. But then I moved it to its correct place and suddenly a red point appeared and part of the previously smooth outline was cut off.
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Just moving it to another spot fixes it again.
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It's a matter of trial and error until I finally get it correctly to where it's supposed to be.

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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:55 am

Open the Validation Toolbar and fix any issues.

Try right-click, optimise.
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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Erwin Denissen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:01 am

If the outline is tiny (e.g. only a few units in height or width), then this can happen as fonts use rounded values.

If this is happening, then it is probably best to change Pixels per em as available on the Options dialog, on the Import tab.
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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Karin1610 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:06 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:55 am
Open the Validation Toolbar and fix any issues.

Try right-click, optimise.
Thank you very much, optimize works more ore less. It sometimes changes the outline in a not desired way though.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:01 am
If the outline is tiny (e.g. only a few units in height or width), then this can happen as fonts use rounded values.

If this is happening, then it is probably best to change Pixels per em as available on the Options dialog, on the Import tab.
The outline isn't tiny, I'd say. This is the lower case x and its height is 700.
I have seen the Pixels per em setting, but I never changed it. It's set to 512, but I don't know if this is alright. Is there any suggestion on how to determine an appropriate value?

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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Erwin Denissen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:30 pm

Karin1610 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:06 pm
The outline isn't tiny, I'd say. This is the lower case x and its height is 700.
I have seen the Pixels per em setting, but I never changed it. It's set to 512, but I don't know if this is alright. Is there any suggestion on how to determine an appropriate value?
Then that isn't the problem, but you might still see rounding issues.

In point mode, right-click and select Round XY Coordinates if you want to round coordinates values while designing your outlines.

Can you send the project file to us?
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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Karin1610 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:35 pm

Erwin Denissen wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:30 pm
In point mode, right-click and select Round XY Coordinates if you want to round coordinates values while designing your outlines.
I've tried this and now moving the outlines doesn't cause the described issue.
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Can you send the project file to us?
Yes, I'll send it via email. As I said, the screenshots have been taken from the lower case x.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Erwin Denissen » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:38 pm

I've made some improvements to the movement of points and contours.

Do download and install this release and let us know your results:

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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Karin1610 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:00 pm

Thank you! I'll give it a try!

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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Erwin Denissen » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:06 pm

The changes concern the way values are rounded, so this improvement needs some testing to ensure it doesn't break other rounding related tasks.
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Re: Weird thing happening with points

Post by Karin1610 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:12 am

Okay.
So far I didn't see anything happen. If I do, I'll report it.

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