Does anyone knows the name of these two fonts?

[Aterking]

I know this one has been changed but I'm loking for the base font.


It has been now some time that I'm looking for the name of this font.

[Dick Pape]

I found a look alike Letterhead Fonts -- LHF Kona Bold

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- but your /A arm

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has been reduced in size from:

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http://www.letterheadfonts.com/fonts/konabold.php (btw used to be called LHF Brewers Bold).
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The second one seems to be Paterson, Jonathan/JP-HandStraight

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http://www.dafont.com/jp-hand-straight.font

[Aterking]

Thank you, thank you