Deleted sync folders are still showing in Library

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DaveyD
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Deleted sync folders are still showing in Library

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Hi,
After importing an entire folder structure of fonts, I deleted several duplicates and other fonts (including complete folders) that were not relevant
However, these fonts are still showing in my Library
Is that the correct behavior?
If yes, how do I delete those (that I spent several hours deleting) from the library?

Thanks,
David
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The top option should do the trick:
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Re: Deleted sync folders are still showing in Library

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Thank you
This scenario was a sub-folder of a sync folder
I didn't get the second option, only the first
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Well, the first option should have removed it. Did it fail on your side?
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Yes, it did not remove it from the main library
I deleted one of the sub-folders of a sync folder, and refreshed the folders
All the folders were updated but the library held on to the fonts
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DaveyD wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:35 am Yes, it did not remove it from the main library
Are you sure, you used the first option to delete fonts? We are not able to reproduce this.
DaveyD wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:35 am I deleted one of the sub-folders of a sync folder, and refreshed the folders
All the folders were updated but the library held on to the fonts
That is a different story. This way MainType should no longer show that folder, but it should keep the fonts in the library.
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I'm not understanding clearly what the relationship is between the following:
- The library
- Synced folders

I understand that views and groups are virtual categorizations, but the library, as well as synced folders, are real - what is the relationship between them?

Are all folders automatically added to the library?
If so, I assumed that the library was replicating what is in the folders
But if so, when deleting a folder from the computer and refreshing the synced folder, it should be deleted from the library as well, and that's not what is happening.
So, is the library independent from the folders?
If so, it seems that the only purpose of showing the folder structure is for grouping reasons, but why then would there be an option to make groups when creating a synced folder?

When installing and uninstalling, is it using the font file on disk or the file in the vault?
What happens if I change the file on disk and hit refresh, does that replace the file in the library?


I'm just trying to understand this program better
If you can explain these relationships I would appreciate it


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David
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This comes from the user manual:

MainType also makes use of a so called Vault, this is a place containing a single copy of each font you add to the library. The vault is used to ensure that you will be able to install and load your fonts, even if you no longer have a copy on disk.

Because we use a vault, there are several things you need to know:
- When uninstall a font or remove a font folder, the fonts remain available in MainType.
- When you add or edit a font in one of your font folders the changes are not automatically picked up by MainType, you need to click the “Refresh” button.
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Thank you Erwin
I think I read that 3 times before I started using the program...
Now I understand it

So just one more clarification,
What is the purpose of seeing the folder structure of the synced folders?
It doesn't really do much besides for acting like groups, correct?
That being said, what would be the usage of creating groups when linking a folder?

Thanks for the help
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DaveyD wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:46 pm So just one more clarification,
What is the purpose of seeing the folder structure of the synced folders?
It doesn't really do much besides for acting like groups, correct?
That being said, what would be the usage of creating groups when linking a folder?
Initially we wanted MainType to be a font manager, hiding the file and folder related part of fonts. Then a group of people requested support for a file/font manager, so they could see where fonts reside on their system. So in the end MainType supports both, it is up to you how you want to use our font manager.
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Ok, understood - thanks

I personally would prefer the following (maybe you can take it into consideration):
A folder hierarchy like you have now, but, the fonts there should not be added to the library automatically
Rather, from the folders, the user can add fonts to the library

Also, deleting a font from the library should delete it only from the library unless the user chooses to delete also from the file system
(I don't see a reason why MainType should force the user to delete a font from the computer)

This makes much more sense to me

Thanks,
David
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