[CLOSED] Ligatures not working properly in FontCreator v15

Ligatures not working properly and also not working after exporting font.
sample files has been attached FYI.

الحمد ۝۱

I am using FontCreator 15.0.0.2974 version
File works in FontCreator 13.0.0.2683 version



FontCreator 13.0.0.2683 version.PNG
FontCreator 15.0.0.2974 version.PNG
Al Qalam Quran 2.ttf (358 KB)

Unfortunately the way our shaping engine handles bidi direction is far from complete, so this will remain an issue. Better test your font in a web browser.

Thanks but when I export font from this latest software its also destroyed my font and does not working in any software.
And how long will you be out of this problem?

What problems and in what software? Here it all seems to work just fine in a web browser.

sorry sir for

I export font from this latest software its also destroyed my font and does not working in any software

now i am sending you both projects created in FC-13 & FC-15 with snap shots FYI.

and also i asked that: How long will you be out of this?

Unfortunately the way our shaping engine handles bidi direction is far from complete, so this will remain an issue.
Font1 FC15 project.fcp (432 KB)
Font1 FC13 project.fcp (617 KB)
correct view before exporting from FC15.PNG
with error.PNG

I tested both in a web browser and it all works just fine.

Please send me a clear instruction on how to reproduce the problem. If you tell me in what Word processor you made those screenshots and provide the text, then I might be able to investigate further.

I am using Adobe Indesign (2023 & 2024), facing problem in both versions I have.
Please find the text file for your reference.

When I produce font file from FC15. Ligatures like ( ۝۲ۙ) collides with text.

If I export .ttf file from FC13. It works perfectly means ligatures never collides with text.


بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ۝۱
اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ رَبِّ الْعٰلَمِیْنَ ۝۲ۙ
الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ ۝۳ۙ
مٰلِكِ یَوْمِ الدِّیْنِ ۝۴ؕ
اِیَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وَ اِیَّاكَ نَسْتَعِیْنُ ۝۵ؕ
اِهْدِنَا الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِیْمَ ۝۶ۙ
صِرَاطَ الَّذِیْنَ اَنْعَمْتَ عَلَیْهِمْ ࣢ۙ غَیْرِ الْمَغْضُوْبِ عَلَیْهِمْ وَ لَا الضَّآلِّیْنَ ۝۷ࣖ
بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ
الٓمّٓ ۝۱ۚ
ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ لَا رَیْبَ ◌ۚۖۛ فِیْهِ ◌ۚۛ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِیْنَ ۝۲ۙ
الَّذِیْنَ یُؤْمِنُوْنَ بِالْغَیْبِ وَ یُقِیْمُوْنَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَ مِمَّا رَزَقْنٰهُمْ یُنْفِقُوْنَ ۝۳ۙ
Text file.txt (1.42 KB)

Over the years Adobe has fixed numerous issues related to font support in their software, but there are still many issues. To make it more complex, they use three different font shaping engines (a basic one, a composer one for complex scripts, and optionally/ experimental Harfbuzz), so what works in one, might fail in another.

As you know, FontCreator comes with cutting edge technology to optimize the internal OpenType feature data, and Adobe software sometimes chokes on such fonts. So as a workaround, you could disable this optimize feature in the Options dialog → Font tab → Optimize storage of OpenType layout features. If this solves the issue, then please contact Adobe and ask them to fix their software. You can do this here:
https://indesign.uservoice.com/

Let us know if this helps.

issue persists.
I had checked preview in browser.
screenshots.jpg
Font export from FontCreator-15.ttf (422 KB)
Font export from FontCreator-13.ttf (433 KB)

If it is still an issue in web browsers, then it most likely is an issue within FontCreator.

We will look into this and get back to you as soon as we located the cause of the problem.

The previous version did a better job at guessing the OT Class. For example arabicendofayah_extendedarabicindictwo_smallhighlamalefcomb-arab.ccmp used to be set to Base, while version 15 set it to a Mark. That caused the problem, and this release has a fix for it.

https://www.high-logic.com/tmp/fontcreator/FontCreatorSetup15.0.0.2983-x64.exe

Please let us know your results.

Thanks sir works perfectly.
but half of the issue still exist

example with arabicendofayah has been solved as you said.

but with dottedcircle still collides
for example: dottedcircle_smallhighjeemcomb-arab.ccmp
text for your reference قَبْلِكَ ◌ۚ وَ
(◌ۚ)

Some more changes related to OT Class:

https://www.high-logic.com/tmp/fontcreator/FontCreatorSetup15.0.0.2984-x64.exe

Please let us know your results.

Thanks sir.
Issue resolved in Browsers as well as in Adobe InDesign
but not resolved for notepad, I am using windows 10.
notedpad dotted.PNG

Sir please solved this issue completely as you solved partially in the update Font Creator 15.0.0.2984. Thanks

text for preview
ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ لَا رَیْبَ ◌ۚۖۛ فِیْهِ ◌ۚۛ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِیْنَ ۝۲ۙ

FC preview issue.jpg

It all seems to work fine in a webbrowser if I open and export file:
Font1 FC15 project.fcp

If things still fail on your side then please provide the font project along with the text.

please find the attachment
Text file.txt (1.42 KB)
ALQADIRQURANICNASKH-BOLD FC15.fcp (435 KB)

It seems fine in the webbrowser or is it wrong in some way?
browser.png

Sir its work perfectly in Web Browser.
I told you about Notepad & FontCreator preview windows itself.

notepad dotted.png image shows Notepad file
and FC preview issue.jpg image shows FontCreator’s own view
FC preview issue.jpg
notedpad dotted.PNG

I already explained the bidi issue, so that is why it has some issues in the Preview panel.

Does the FC13 export work in notepad?