Copy accented fonts?

When I’d like to select and copy-paste a font that has accent, neither ‘copy’, ‘cut’, ‘paste’ works. I.e. under Edit menu these functions are displayed in grey text. So I can’t copy neither the accent, nor the base font or the whole character.
What’s the problem?
(FontCreator 5.6 Evaluation version)

You don’t need a font editor to copy a font file, use Windows file explorer instead. If you want to copy and paste glyphs then follow the directions from the user manual.
http://www.high-logic.com/fontcreator/manual/copyandpasteglyphs.html

A composite character (accented character) contains no glyph outlines, just references to its composite glyph members. If you edit the composte glyph members, then the composite glyph changes. For example, edit the acute accent and áéíóú will all change. Edit the a, and áàãå will all change.

You can copy composite glyphs in the glyph over view, then paste them into a glyph edit window to create a composite of the composite. You can copy two or more simple glyphs in the glyph overview, then paste them into a glyph edit window to create a composite glyph.

If you tell us what you’re trying to achieve we can suggest various solutions.

Thank you Bhikkhu, it makes things clear (I am a beginner). I am about to add double acute ő ű to a font for Hungarian text.

  1. Open acute accent glyph edit window, copy acute accent
  2. Open double acute accent glyph edit window, paste acute accent
  3. Hold control + shift and drag a copy of the acute accent sideways
  4. Adjust size and/or angle if required
  5. Insert characters Ő ő Ű ű
  6. Complete composites

Or, simpler

  1. Insert double acute accent hungarumlaut decimal codepoint 733
  2. Complete composites
  3. Make simple
  4. Adjust size and/or angle if required
  5. Insert characters Ő ő Ű ű
  6. Complete composites

Note that double acute is a slightly different shape to single acute depending on the font’s design
(Times New Roman Illustrated)
DoubleAcute.png

just succeeded :slight_smile:
For italic and bold is there any special thing to care of? (as I see, in one of the typefaces bold, italic and normal are in the same single .ttf file)

great software! congrats for the creators.

In italic fonts, the acute accents need to be offset more to the right than for regular. This should be taken care of by using Complete Composites.

(as I see, in one of the typefaces bold, italic and normal are in the same single .ttf file)

Only one typeface can be stored in a single TTF. If you open a Truetype Collection in FontCreator it will extract the contents as separate Truetype Files. It cannot save Truetype Collections.

There is something that I don’t understand: when I open “Modern No. 20” font (available in Office 2003) I don’t know the way to find the bold and italic typeface file. I don’t really know if it is a truetype collection, however there’s only one single file for it in C:\WINDOWS\Fonts and it’s not a .ttc file but a .ttf file…
can you help please

If you don’t have separate fonts named Modern No. 20 as Roman (Normal or nothing), Italic, Bold, Bold Italic variations then you’re not working with a full family. The Bold or Italics you get would be computer-generated.

To see more, in FC, File/Open Installed Fonts and you will see (Font Family Name) Arial with 4 styles. Those would be used by MS Word when bold, or Italic, or BoldItalic requests are given.

Modern No. 20 is a very nice font.

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/family.aspx?FID=124

Microsoft has web pages for versions 1.51 and 1.50 of the font.

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1008

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=360

No italic or bold or bold italic is mentioned on those pages.

Following the link to “Purchase & Download Modern No. 20 font” from each of those pages leads to the following page, though reference to No. 20 is not on that page.

http://www.ascenderfonts.com/font/modern-wide.aspx

I followed a trail and found the following.

http://www.ascenderfonts.com/

http://www.ascenderfonts.com/info/about.aspx

http://www.ascendercorp.com/


Version 1.50 is installed on the PC which I am using. The font arrived here in the VALUPACK folder of fonts with Microsoft Office 97.

There is no italic or bold or bold italic.

The following document refers to installing fonts from the ValuPack folder of Microsoft Office 97.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/170885

The comparable page for Microsoft Office 2001 is as follows.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272769

That page includes the following.

NOTE: The following are font suitcases, which may contain various versions of the individual fonts. For example, the Book Antiqua suitcase includes the Book Antiqua regular font style, as well as bold, italic, and bold-italic font styles.

So, maybe Microsoft is using True Type Collection files?

The word “may” seems significant.


A useful test in relation to fonts can be made using Microsoft WordPad.

For example.

Key the word Test in Arial.

Highlight the word Test and click the italics button.

Format Font… and a dialogue panel is displayed.

There is some text about whether the italic is being displayed from an italic font or whether the italic is being faked by the computer from the regular font.

Now key the word Test in Modern No. 20.

Highlight the word Test and click the italics button.

Format Font… and a dialogue panel is displayed.

There is some text about whether the italic is being displayed from an italic font or whether the italic is being faked by the computer from the regular font.

I hope that this helps.

William Overington

20 March 2009

Oh, you are completely right. WordPad says “This font style is imitated for the display.”

And actually it seems to be a little bit different: e.g. German ‘scharfes s’ ß looks more conservative in that test window of Modern Wide Font than in the MS Office 2003 installed version, and some geometry ratios are different too (for example R):
modern_wide.png
modern_no_20.png