Creating an ancient font

Dear All

I have been working on creating an ancient font based on Proto-Elamite font since September 2019:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Elamite

I had made some progress in using Glyphter to create the font:

https://glyphter.com/

Here is the SVG file:

Glyphter:

The end result on word:

As you can see there was some colour loss

I have been advised to use High Logic FontCreator 13.0 Home Edition to resolve the colour loss issue, however I have had problems creating characters with more than one colour. To illustrate the problem, I have attached screenshots from FontCreator:

Getting the fonts to appear correctly on my PC has been a challenge as has been solving the colour issue.

This is what I was told may be part of the problem:

I recommend that you get Font Creator and use that to create a font with black/white glyphs. It may take a little learning, but the glyph outlines are basically the same thing as paths in Adobe Illustrator, except that overlapping contours / paths will blend in different ways: they either combine or cancel each other out depending on the directions of the paths. Then once you are able to create the black/white font, you can build on that to add color — gray rather than black elements.

I am currently using Windows 10 as my operating system.

I look forward to your thoughts on this.

Moved to the Support Forum.

Please see this tutorial on Creating Multi-coloured Glyphs

Thank you Bhikkhu

Dear Mr Pesala

I am following the link which you kindly provided.Where in Font Creator do I copy the glyphs?

Kind Regards

deuterium_1

Use Ctrl+C to copy and Ctrl+V to paste the glyph. As it says:

  1. Copy the glyph
  2. Insert a new glyph after it
  3. Paste a copy
  4. Repeat for the second and third copies

I copy and paste using Inkscape and the Glyph is very small on Font Creator. I have to enlarge it each time.

The colour issue is still present despite the instructions.

I would greatly appreciate any advice

See Tools, Options, Exchange to modify the scaling and position of imported contours.

I have no experience of overlapping and blending colour layers, but I assume that you have to change the Alpha Transparency of the colours in the palette.
Alpha Transparency.png
My palette has both light grey and dark grey, but both are 255 alpha, so contours in front will completely hide those behind where they overlap.

Hi Mr Pesala

Is it possible to do this via Zoom?

I can then share my screen so you can see what is happening.

You don’t have to show your video, just my video if that works for you.

We can arrange it through private messaging if that is possible.

Bhikkhu Pesala is the most respected and helpful person here around the forum, but he is not affiliated with High-Logic.

Did you notice the tutorial about creating color fonts?

Hi Erwin

I feel it is difficult to convey my issue without showing what is happening on my screen when I try to insert SVGs glyphs into Font Creator

I found out that Windows 10 has this function of screen capturing:

https://betanews.com/2019/01/14/windows-10-screen-recorder-ultility/

I can then share a link to the video somehow

I would greatly appreciate if you could kindly let me know if this works for you

Have there been any similar attempts to create ancient fonts?

FontCreator is used in many ways, but we do not know how all our customers use our font editor.

Please show some screenshots or a video, so we better understand how to help.

Dear All

Thank you so much for keeping this thread open, real life has been hectic with disruptions caused by the ongoing Covid Pandemic. I greatly appreciate your patience from everyone here. I also reached out to a French scholar in Elamite who has done work on the script too, he encouraged me as well:

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/455638/Iranian-plateau-gave-birth-to-writing-French-archaeologist

I have attached a short clip illustrating the issue I am having. You can see that the vector image doesn’t look right in FontCreator:

https://imgur.com/RRwON3c

I have watched the video, but I cannot see any issues. I did notice you moved it too far to the left, but that is most likely not related to the problem you try to show.

Many thanks Mr Denisson, I have aligned it correctly now and it is showing up in the test box (strangely the screen capture software can’t capture this box).

I am now trying to adjust the colours as Mr Pesala had suggested:

I am unable to find this box:

Toolbars - Palette.

Many thanks Bhikkhu

I tried to use the colour palette and it changed almost all the circles to grey:

I am only looking to change some of the colours of the circles not all.

I look forward to your thoughts on this

Each different colour requires its own glyph member. The hollow circles in your screen shot are also grey.

Look again at the tutorial on Multi-coloured Glyphs that I linked to earlier.

Take a look at the multi-coloured glyphs in the Odana.fcp font project attached to that tutorial to see how multi-coloured glyphs are constructed.

Thank you Bhikkhu

I am going to work on adding 70 numeral glyphs to create the 1st font. I will go through and flag any issues I find with the glyphs but I have finally figured how to align the glyphs properly so they don’t overlap each when I test them using Font Creator’s font testing box

The main form font contains more than 1400 characters so I would have to creare multiple fonts as this exceeds what is on the a keyboard.

That should not be necessary. There is only one “a” on the keyboard, but I can type a à á ä ã â A À Á Ä Ã Â etc.

Just install an extended keyboard in Windows Settings, Time and Language, Language, Keyboard.