Scale Font

I created a font but am having trouble increasing the overall height of the font. I need to scale the font by 111.44% but when I do a glyph transform for all the characters it shows the font is increased, but when I install it, it shows up the same height as before. I tried scaling it by 200% and you can see a different in FontCreator, I installed the font and you can see the font is larger, but only half there. So, I correct the metrics for maximum and re-install the font. Now the font is the same size as before.

I tried uninstalling the font, thinking that would help but it still shows it the same. I’m using Vista and not sure that matters. Any help is appreciated!!! :smiley:

A quart won’t fit into a pint pot. There is a limit to how big a 12 point font can be. As you found, if you increase the font size and don’t adjust the metrics, the font just gets clipped. If you do recalculate the metrics, the font returns to its previous size.

The only way the glyphs can get bigger at the same point size is by making using of the area currently reserved for accents — between the Ascender and WinAscent, or between descender and WinDescent. If the glyph crosses the WinAscent/WinDescent it will be clipped.

Is it possible to do this with all the glphs? Maybe by pulling down the x-line or the caps-line? If I converted it to Version 2 and moved the caps-height to 50 units less than the font doesn’t work at all in AutoCAD, which is where I’m trying to match the font. If I convert it back to Version 0 after changing the caps-height, it just changes the caps-height back the 50 units.

I really would like a way to just make the font larger. When I’m using it in AutoCAD or Revit the font is scaled by inches, not points. I need a 1/8" font to be 1/8", but instead it too small and I have to use a font size of .1393".

Any help is appreciated!!! :frowning:

Here are two lines of artistic text set in my DTP application, PagePlus. The font is 9 point (1/8") Verdana, and the line spacing is fixed at exactly 9 points. The grey rectangles are exactly 9 points x 4 points.
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Do you understand what the problem is?

By “black rectangle” I assume you’re referring to the grey box that is behind the black letter?

No, I don’t understand the problem. I just know it doesn’t work. I tried reading through all the help file to try and understand the WinAccent and all that verbiage, but this is all new to me and it doesn’t make sense that the font is too small. My letter “A” is at the caps-height line, but it should be over the caps-height line. My “B” is 50 units under my caps-height line, but it should be AT the caps-height line. It seems like I should be able to grow my “B” to the caps-height line but I feel like it’s then moving my caps-height line farther away. How is the caps-height line calculated? Does any of that make sense?

The Caps Height is calculated from the capital letter H (if you’re using Contents and Layout version 2 or 3).

As you can see in the above illustration, the capital A is less than 9 points, as it needs to be to allow for accents. Ascenders on b and h may also be taller than the caps height in some fonts.

You can increase the caps height right up to the WinAscent line if you wish, if your font does not need to use accents, but no more than that or the tops will be clipped off.

ok, I think I get that. I’ll have to try it again tonight. I must be missing something somewhere.

What does the Layout version 2 or 3 do? If I’m not use the Layout 2 or 3 how is the caps-height calculated?

Thanks for all your help! :slight_smile:

I think I got something a bit mixed up there.

You can set the caps height in Format, Settings, Ranges, if layout version 2 or 3 is selected. If you’re not, the calculate option is greyed out, and the position of the Caps Height bearing line moves when the capital letter H is resized.

The font metric Caps Height can be used by applications, for example, to align the top of a Drop Capital.

It is also used by the Font Creator feature “Complete Composites” to position accents vertically at the right distance above capital letters, so if you want to move all accents down a bit, reduce the Caps Height manually in Settings, Ranges, then Complete Composites.

Well I had to modify each glyph so that the upper portion did not exceed the caps-height line for AutoCAD to display it properly, but it worked. .125" font displayed as .125".

However, the same font at .125" is .15625" high. So, in Revit I have to do a height correction of 80%. so in order for my font to display .125" I have to use a font size of .1". It’s a Revit thing and I’m irritated it does that. But, I got it to worked so I’m happy about that!

Thanks for all your help!!! :smiley: